re MOB workings


tudor erich
 

Thank you for the information. Can you help more please?
What would have been the formation of the two trains, early and late,
advertised as second only, no conductor?
What was the formation of the Leman and Oberland?
Were post coaches worked to specific diagrams as on the RhB and FO or
just added as required?
If a 6000 was at Zweisimmen, was it available for passenger working
at all in between working freight?
Any details please of the dedicated freight trains to/from Montreux
until 1994?
Are you able to advise individual train number formations fom the
photos (not vehicle numbers, train numbers), that you have studied.
Are lokturnus type details available for 1992 and 1993?
Did the Panorama to/from Lenk change engines at Zweisimmen or did it
run round?
Many (further) thanks.


Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@...>
 

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Von: <tudoryork@yahoo.co.uk>
Thank you for the information. Can you help more please?
Sorry, no. It is all from my memory and with the aid of some photos. I do
neither have graphic timetables of that period nor tables of train
compostitions. It might even be, that the latter, indicating every detail, does
not exist on MOB as train compositions were always adapted to demand. So, what
would it be good for, if it is only a general guideline but not the exact status
of day-to-day-operation? What do you want to do with these informations?

You have to be aware, that MOB mostly did not have more than 4 identical
vehicles. If possible, all the latest rolling stock was rolling as much as
possible. When replacement was needed, it would usually be an older vehicle,
possibly with different properties. If a 6000 failed, the replacing 4000 or
double-3000 could only pull 4 cars instead of 5. Perhaps a DZe 6/6 was used
instead (as on 14 Jan 1994), but with lower maximum speed. Then, I found a
picture in a book, showing a panoramic express on 14 July 1993 behind a 6000
with only four coaches: During summer holidays! - why? I do not know. Another
picture shows DZe 6/6 2002 with five panoramic coaches on 23 July 1992 on the
Lenk branch.

You might wish to ask MOB itself, perhaps they have in their files what you are
looking for.

Were post coaches worked to specific diagrams as on the RhB and FO or
just added as required?
sure they worked on specific diagrams, as on all Swiss railways. There was
always a panel in one window, indicating the train numbers, the post van would
go with.

Markus Giger


Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@...>
 

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Von: <tudoryork@yahoo.co.uk>
What would have been the formation of the two trains, early and late,
advertised as second only, no conductor?
All such trains were usually run with 3001-3002/3301-3302 or
5001-5004/(305-306)/5301-5304. The reason to indicate theam as second
class only can be found in the history, when the local trains were run by 1001.
Perhaps to have the possibility to run these trains with 1001 in case one
of the other trainsets failed, MOB kept the text unchanged. With the new
timetable layout 94/95 it disappeared.

Were post coaches worked to specific diagrams as on the RhB and FO or
just added as required?
I found the postal edition of the official timetable 93/94 and 90/91. In this
edition, there was a red addition showing trains disposed for postal transports
or RPO. It shows, that the following trains were running with RPO: 213/222 and
225/234 and 464 (apparently came back empty or post was transported in the
baggage compartment of 3001-3002):

213 Mx 0700 Zs 0900 Mo - Sa
222 Zs 1200 Mx 1400 Mo - Sa

225 Mx 1300 Zs 1500 Mo - Fr
234 Zs 1800 Mx 2000 Mo - Fr

464 Zs 0626 Sa 0710 Mo - Fr

two RPO met at 1330 in Les Cases

I put a scan of the MOB pages of 93/94 timetable in the files section of
SwissRail, together with explanation of signs.

Markus Giger